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Sent: 12/02/2016 22:46:40 GMT Standard Time
Subj: EU Commissioners Oath & Privy Oath
Lord Tebbit asked Her Majesty’s Government, Why they have been unable to inform members of the public who have inquired the reason for the repeal of the Treason Act 1795 during the passage of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998.
Lord Stoddard of Swindon, ‘My Lords, I suppose that this could not possibly have anything to do with the fact that the European Union Commissioners affirm an Oath of Allegiance to the European Union. If they do so, they swear allegiance to somebody other than Her Majesty the Queen, which I understand in itself would be treasonable’.
Is it appropriate for a former EU Commissioner to sit in the Cabinet having sworn, when he became a Commissioner, not to allow questions of national allegiance to affect him?
Privy Council Oath, or oath as a European Commissioner to be unmoved by national considerations?
……the most damning of which being the continual support of the EU and the electorate’s misinformation by government and parliament alike, regarding our continuing membership of the EU.
You have consistently chosen to evade and dismiss the following:
‘I do declare that no foreign prince, person, prelate, state or potentate hath or ought to have any jurisdiction, power, superiority, pre-eminence or authority, ecclesiastical or spiritual, within this realm. So help me God.’– Bill of Rights 1689 which is directly linked to the monarch’s Coronation Oath.
Note to Mr Mandelson. How is it possible to acknowledge the solemn swearing of this oath while, at the very same time, breaking it
EU Commissioners Oath
“I solemnly undertake:
*to respect the Treaties and the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union in the fulfilment of my duties;
*to be completely independent in carrying out my responsibilities, in the general interest of the Union;
*in the performance of my tasks neither to seek nor to take instructions from any Government or from any other institution. body, office or entity;
*to refrain from any action incompatible with my duties or the performance of my tasks.
“I formally note the undertaking of each Member State to respect this principle and not to seek to influence Members of the ‘Commission in the performance of their tasks’
I further undertake to respect, both during and after my term of office, the obligations arising therefrom, and in particular to duty to behave with integrity and discretion as regards the acceptance, after I have ceased to hold office, of certain appointments or benefits
Now you know why our House of Lords is stuffed with EU pension supporters and why they continue to support the EU regardless of country of origin
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Very interesting piece of analysis – not at all dry constitutional “stuff”, especially in light of the soon-to-come EU referendum.
My assumption is that the ineluctable process of “ever-closer” union will cement and reinforce the trend towards EU legal superiority over UK law.
Eventually – and inevitably – the EU Court will possess a standing like that of a US Supreme Court in all its dealings with inferior states’ legal systems.
Whether or not subsidiarity will ever amount to anything like US states’ rights remains to be seen, though I personally doubt that the EU Court will ever give up meaningful legal powers.
No one ever gives away real power. Ever.
Ultimately, the UK will end up rather like a county council of the past, with some delegated powers but little real legislative powers in future.
Please forward on to all your contacts.
Mick G
One possibility occurs to me: an EU Commissioner could presumably resign from the position of Privy Councillor and/or The Monarch could discharge them from the position of Privy Councillor, thereby removing their entitlement to be addressed as Right Honourable and removing their entitlement to having the letters Rt. Hon. before their names.
MPs cannot resign from the position of MP; they have to go through an arcane procedure of applying for the post of Steward of the Chiltern Hundreds (a non-existent position) which – technically – is in the gift of The Crown, thereby disqualifying them from holding the post of an MP and – in the process – generating a parliamentary constituency by-election.
Presumably, applying for a position as an EU Commissioner should also disqualify them from continuing in membership – technically – of the Privy Council, though it should be noted that meetings of the Privy Council are very rare and usually only involve 3 cabinet ministers. My guess is that they have just not bothered to redress the HMG PC/EU Commissioner “clash”.