2021 – 038 Two ways to solve illegal immigration and the fishing dispute

Fishing and Immigration    editor@theeuroprobe.org 11/2021

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The 2 problems are to stop more uninvited migrants crossing the channel but also to send back to the EU all those who were assisted by the EU to get to the UK from a safe country France. They came from the EU illegally so it cannot be illegal to send them back. You cannot stop the boats as the coastlines are too long and often remote. A process is necessary to return those who manage to get to the UK. Whatever process is to be used it must be retrospective to remove the illegals already here.  A way is – read below.

It would seem that the international Corporates and the CBI want unlimited immigration for plenty of cheap labour. There is also the strong possibility that our Home Office is quite happy for illegal immigration to continue. Home Office personnel should have no say in vetting migrants.

Home Office staff 2022 who seem to be dealing with immigration?

These solutions could run in conjunction with the Rwandan operation and any other solution and would not need a parliamentary vote or ECHR approval to implement. The UK must either leave the ECHR or change our law so that it is only advisary and UK law has ultimate authority. This is the path many EU countries have taken. They are in the ECHR but it is only advisary and does not override their national law.

This proposal is also a safe way to remove those already here who should not be here.

There is now another route into UK. The EU is dumping thousands of migrants into Eire. Once processed then they can all legally enter the UK under the Good Friday agrement.


The following rules to apply to all commercial fishermen in UK waters whether UK fishermen or from the EU in the interests of ‘fairness.

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First  – there can be no solution to the illegal migration while we are still under the authority of the Europeann Court of Human Rights and the UN Migration Pact. The ECHR was a separate stand alone body when set up in 1951. Since then it has been steadily and stealthly taken over (hijacked) by the EU and is now completely under the EU control (read http://www.theeuroprobe.org/2012-019-european-court-of-human-rights/ ). The other problem is the UN Migration Pact. May signed us up to that without it going through parliament on her personal whim. We must withdraw from it as it also seems to be the source of the requirement for Diversity.

If a French fishing boat was sinking just inside French waters would the RNLI rescue them and take them back to France? Yes they would. So why don’t they rescue the small boats in French waters and take them back to France or are they only at risk once they cross into UK waters?

The overarching principle with fishing in UK waters is that the UK has complete sovereignty over its waters and any concessions are at the sole discretion of the UK. It is not acceptable that the license to fish in UK water to be dictated by the French. The UK will dictate the conditions of the license and the EU will have accept it if they want access to UK fishing grounds.

This solution will not need ECHR approval as it is ‘voluntary’ so cannot be illegal. It will also solve the problem of how to remove from the UK the illegal migrants already here in the UK.

To achieve this it is not necessary to leave the European Court of Human Rights (read  http://www.theeuroprobe.org/2012-019-european-court-of-human-rights/ ) but to establish a UK CHR which has pecidence over ECHR and their decisions only advisory. Also if the French want a concession from the UK to fish our waters they must give the UK what the UK wants in return.

read also to see why it is so difficult to leave the ECHR  http://www.theeuroprobe.org/2020-11-the-appointment-of-judges-and-magistrates/

If someone arrives at Gatwick without papers they are not sent to a hotel  but returned on the next aircraft to where they came from.

Protocol 1

  • There is a crisis in North Sea fishing stocks due to overfishing and species depletion. This is the prime reason given for this proposal.
  • All Fishing in UK waters to be under the authority of a UK Fishing Authority (UKFA).
  • The EU fishermen to be given temporary discretionary access to British waters to enable them to reduce their fishing fleet in an orderly manner. A concession that was not given to British fishermen when the UK joined the EU.
  • All fishing boats registered in the UK must be owned and crewed by British nationals or other crewmen with a limited life working visas.
  • The total annuial catch of fish to be harvested in UK waters is to be assessed  annually by a UK scientific department of the UKFA and applied to both UK and EU fishing boats. An EU representative may attend as an observer only.
  • Set up non fishing areas of the spawning grounds with no fishing there whatsoever.
  • Total annual catch for all EU boats to be limited by UKFA and where one EU boat catches an excess of his allotted catch harvest or a super trawler catches a vast haul then it reduces the catch for other EU boats are allowed to catch the following year. The EU to be responsible to allocate the share of the EUs harvest to each EU fisherman from their allotted total annual catch and to inform the UKFA of their alloted harvest .
  • UK boats can catch an equal tonnage of fish in EU waters as EU boats can catch in UK waters.
  • An annual license per boat to fish in UK waters at a cost of £5000 (?) a year for UK and EU fishermen to fund the conservation necessities issued by the UKFA. It can be reclaimed as a legitimate business expense by a UK fishermen from the UK Inland Revenue and the EU fishermen to reclaim their £5000 from the EU  Inland Revenue. That way the EU pays for our UKFA not the UK fishermen or UK taxpayer,
  • A similar license required by UK fishermen to fish in EU waters.
  • The number of licenses available for EU fishermen can be open for them to bid for can they reclaim their license and bid fee from their home EU Inland Revenue when the concesion ends.
  • The certificate to be in English and the EU to be responsible for translating. Review all the EU applications for a license and reject any with spelling mistakes, wrong colour ink, translation errors etc.
  • The number of annually reducing licenses and harvest issued to EU boats and time scale is to be at the complete discretion of the UK Fisheries and fish stocks.
  • Annual harvest taken by EU Boats and licenses issued to the EU boats to be incrementally reduced each year and transferred to the UK fishing fleet to enable the EU fisheries to gradually adapt to the new fishing climate.
  • Where super trawlers make a massive catch then that reduces what other EU boats can catch.
  • The license would limit what the EU and UK fisherman can catch to prevent species depletion.
  • Licenses awarded to UK fishermen cannot be sold on to EU or any non UK fishermen – only other UK working fishermen and family cooperatives  but not corporates.
  • Government loans to UK fishermen to get new boats etc.
  • No correlation between EU and UK annual harvest
  • Unintentional overfish by an EU boat to be cross decked onto a UK boat or landed at a UK port- not dumped overboard.
  • To be granted a license to fish the EU Fishermen must have documented proof they have historically fished in UK waters.
  • The boats must be fitted with a tracker (with a unique signal linked to the licence) and the UKFA informed of the intention to fish, where and when before being given permission to commence fishing.
  • Fishing in UK waters to be monitored by drone and satellite of fishing in UK waters to be by a UK company in the UK with UK staff and paid for out of the license fee.
  • When the fishing trip is completed all fishing boats, UK and EU, must check-in at a UK port, or at sea, to verify its catch is within the license before a UK boat is unloaded or an EU boat before returning to the EU for unloading there. On board inspection can be by a UKFA personel at sea.
  • The UKFA to have the right to board and inspect any fishing boat at any time as a condition of the license anywhere in UK waters and before they leave UK waters.
  • At the end of each fishing trip into UK waters all EU boats must then return to the EU ‘voluntarily’ taking with them with a number of illegal immigrants from the UK (number depending on the size of the boat) to go to the reception offices in Paris or Brussels.  If they want a license to fish in UK waters the migrants to be collected from a UK port. The EU Fishing boat owner must sign the licence to agree that he will  ensure his boat collects and ‘voluntarily’ returns the illegal migrants to the EU. No need for the European Court of Human Rights or lawyers to get involved as the EU fishermen are doing it ‘voluntarily’.
  • The reception center would move from Dover and off shored  to Paris and Brussels for all refugees and potential migrants to be processed and registered for Visas if applicable.  – that way the migrants are in safe countries while their cases are considered
  • They would be given a Knapsack with food and water and a one man tent (manufactured in the UK) and train ticket to Paris or Brussels and a map of how to get from the train station to the Processing centers.
  • There is absolutely no need for potential migrants to risk drowning in the Channel when they can stay dry and safe near these Processing Centres.
  • This is a rigid condition of being granted a license to which the EU fishermen will need to sign ‘voluntarily’ (I.E. they can either volunteer to take the migrants and get the licence or they can refuse and then not get the licence.) No return of migrants no licence. There is an EU precident for this in that if you want to join the EU you have to join the ECHR – it is ‘voluntary’ but you do not have a choice. 
  • If they have no passport or paperwork it is of no matter as they will be going to an assessment center in France or Belgium – both safe countries.
  • The EU fishermen will still have their licenses so cannot complain
  • Once this procedure is established we could offer it to Eire for small fee.
  • As France is enabling the movement of their unwanted migrants to the UK then we must have to abiliy to return them in a way the EU cannot prevent.
  • This can be done without reference to the ECHR.
  • This is a way to remove illegal migrants in the UK who have managed to evade the correct and legal procedure
  • If any solicitor demands a second legal review it can only mean that he did not do a proper job first time – for any reason then they have one shot only using Legal Aid or nowinnofee and if they fail they become liably for all the legal costs of the government. Lawyers are supposed to be experts. They should get their case right first time and not have several goes if they keep getting their cases wrong.
  • When all the illegal migrants have been returned to the EU and the concessionary period has ended the EU fishermen can bid for the limited number of licences we decide to allow.
  • It should be understood that it is not illegal to cross the Channel. Many yachtsmen do so to go for lunch then go back home. What is illegal is to stay there without a visa.
  • It is illegal to land in the UK without a passport or papers. Anyone who does must be considered illegal.
  • What about ‘genuine’ refugees? Open 2 migrant processing offices in the UK Embassies, or buy  suitable warehouses, in Paris and Brussels instead of Dover as the only place to process the migrants and asylum seekers. All illegals in the UK would need to do is to get to a UK fishing port for a free trip to France to than travel to Paris where their claim can be assessed. If they have no papers a simple DNA swab from the inside of their cheek would reveal their origins. More in Protocol 2.
  • Any illegal migrant coming to the UK from the EU on a UK or EU fishing boat, lorry or aircraft will result in that boat, aircraft or lorry being impounded with a heavy fine and imprisonment of the skipper/driver/pilot and no further licenses allowed to that fishing company or transport company.
  • The travel company to be responsible for the migrant to have the correct paperwork before allowing them to travel to the UK.
  • If the UKFA decides to allow future licenses for EU boats the EU boats will have to bid for them. Licenses are not an entitlement. They are a temporary concession. Possibility of future liences at the UKFA discretion.
  • Any attempt by the EU to exploit the licenses for petty reasons should result in the UK canceling all licenses issued to the EU.
  • Fish Quotas to be initially the same for UK and EU. EU to decide how much each EU boat can catch from the total quota. UK quota to increase each year and EU quota to reduce each year until the UK has 100%. However a limited number of licenses could then be for EU fishermen that they have to bid for when the initial period is over.
  • House illegal migrants in waiting in the UK in Mosques. Renew the 1679 Billeting Act to give this legal status. read https://www.theeuroprobe.org/2020-21-a-suitable-solution-to-the-accommodating-illegal-economic-migrants/
  • To achieve this it is first neccessary to leave the EU Human Rights Act or make it advisory only in the UK and establish our own CHR, leave the UN Migrants Pact, which we never agreed to join, and leave Dublin 111 and Marrakech Migration Pact. Change the Commissioner for Migrants into a Commisioner for homeless Britons.
  • Make UK laws and regulations that will be the only laws that apply in the UK,
  • This solution does not need to go through parliament or be vetted by the legal profession but just needs a slight alteration to the Fishing Licences.
  • Protocol 2
  • Another alternative could be to set up a charity in France  (L’Association de Sauvage en Mer de France  the LASMF) to buy a French registered and flagged ship and convert it to save illegal migrants from drowning on the French side of the Channel. Ship to be named ‘Sauvetage en Mer’. funded by EU public donation and UK donations.
  • All boats to be intercepted while still in French waters.
  • Once on board they would immediately be subject to French law and can be taken straight to France. If a UK ship has a duty to bring any rescued illegals they save to the UK then France has an equal duty to bring the illegals saved on a French vessel to France.
  • Fit a lifting frame on the stern that can be used to raise the inflateable out of the water so the migrants can walk straight to a door in the stern instead of risking falling in the sea.
  • The ship will be controlled and crewed by all who are British born Anglofiles and fluent in French.
  • The inflateable boat organisers and the boat pilots subject to draconian penalties (25 years in prison with no parole) if identified.
  • The LASMF would be financed by volutary donations and perhaps those currently donating to the RNLI would transfer their donations to the LASMF instead.
  • When Le Suavetage en Mer is not saving migrants from drowning the UKFA can hire it for fisheries protection duties as a means of financing it with the money from the EU Inland Revenue?
  • Le Suavetage en Mer may have to have armed guards on board to prevent the RNLI boarding and press ganging the migrants to take them the Dover.
  • The rescued are then given a knapsack (made in the UK) with water, food, a train ticket to Paris or Brussels and 50 Euros with a map showing how to get from the station to the UK Visa office as per Protocol 1.
  • A high speed assesment if the potential migrant has a job to come to, accommodation arranged, health insurance and financially self supporting.
  • Promote a rumour that Great White sharks have now been spotted in the channel due to Global Warming who are very partial to feet and legs hanging over the sides of inflatables.
  • Another alterative would be for the British Givernment rent hotels in France for the ‘refugees’?
  • As a gesture of Good Will we could offer this facility to Eire to enable them to return uninvited and criminal migrants to the EU via the UK and the EU fishing fleet for a small fee.
  • Why doesn’t the @RNLI  advertise for donations on French TV as its people are escaping from their dangerous, war torn shores 

If all these people coming here on dinghies are doing so as they speak English and have family there, why do the Boarder force need to employ interpreters? and why are their family not paying for their board and lodgings?

If a French fishing boat was sinking just inside French waters would the RNLI rescue them and take them back to France? Yes they would. So why don’t they rescue the small boats in French waters and take them back to France or are they only at risk once they cross into UK waters?

  • Mick Greenhough 4 10 2021

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