Wokey Archbishop Welby and the Wokey Bishops of the Church of England.

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In the early ’60s when we first got cars we would drive down into rural Kent to to sample the delights of the country pubs.

On one visit on entering there was a group of 4 lads, very jolly but not drunk. They turned out to be trainee CoE priests from a local Church of England training college.

Me, being brought up a Primitive Methodist, always found it fun to engage with CoE people. Asking questions like – what happened to the gold the baby Jesus as given? The CoE is nothing more than the Church of Rome without the Pope, Confession or Mass. It has all their smells. bells and fancy regailier especially its authoritarianism. One question I like to ask them is if Frenchman is born in England is English then as Christ was born in a stable is he really a horse?

I began ragging them about the CoE and one, who was quite tipsy, said ‘we are not really Christians we are Marxists and we intend to rot the church from the inside’.

One, who was not so tipsy, then jumped up and rather angrily marched them all out leaving their half full glasses of beer.

I never thought much about it until now. However the behaviour of Archbishop Welby has made me recall that event

Welby is surely far closer to Cultural Marxism than Christianity and so now it seems are many of the Bishops.

Probably that those 4 have been promoted up to the highest levels of the CoE and have been very successful in their aim.

I come from a line of coal miners. My grandfather had to work flat out to feed his family with virtually no opportunity to ‘better himself’. Due to the complete lack of Safety he was very badly injured underground and quite unable to work any more. My father, who at the age ot 10 had won one of 4 open scloarships in Derbyshire on the basis of his ability at maths, had leave school to go down the mine when he was 11 and his brother also who was 9. Grandad was generously awarded 5 shillings and bag of coal a week so the pennies they earnt were essential. As such you would have thought they would be ardent Socialists or even Marxists but they were devout Protestant Primitive Methodists and Chartists. Incidentally they worked in the same pit as Dennis Skinner’s dad. They were very patriotic and pro British and my dad was dismayed at the anti British policies of todays Socialist ‘Labour’ Party. He was incensed as he felt his Labour Party has been hijacked by Socialist toffs and how they have betrayed what our ancestors had fought so hard to establish. The Labour Party of today is no longer the ‘Party of the Working Class’.

A true British worker and how coal miners were treated when working (also known as ‘White Privilige’)

What is a ‘workimg man’? Any person who generates some ‘wealth’ in their working time surely?

However strategic industries such as electricity, water, gas should be under the control of the government but run by those who know how to run a company not politically motivated civil servants. Coal is far to valuable a raw material to just be burnt.

Mick Greenhough  editor@theeuroprobe.org

In 1534 Henry VIII had a conflict with the Pope as to who had ultimately authority over England. Henry resolved the dilema by evicting the Pope and his Catholic power base of monks in the monastries and destroyed them. However he did not do so in Ireland as then it was a very remote and forgotten land and that has led to problems even today.  He then established the Church of England. Martin Luther had recently started the Protestant anti Pope movement so the CoE steadfastly adopted Protestantism. Henry remained a Catholic to his death so the Reformation was driven mainly by Thomas Cranmer, Elizabeth 1, William Tyndale and Cromwell. Since then England has had fight some very bloody battles to keep the Pope out of the UK. However the CoE is almost a clone of the CoR but without Confession, Mass and with NO Popery. It retained nearly all the CoR’s authoritarianism, bells, smells and fancy regailia. This led to the birth of the Methodist Church by those who rejected that authoritarianism and adopted more plain attire. As is human nature the Methodist clergy in time began to adopt the authoritarianism of the CoE. The new emerging industrial age required workers who were both literate and numerate so the working men started to become educated and began to read. In 1800 some of those working men began to reject that new, increasing authoritarianism of the Methodist clergy so they were thrown out of the Methodist Church. They felt they did not need a ‘gate keeper’ to speak to God for them as they could speak to him directly themselves. They were still devout Christians and became known as Primitive Methodists who did not indulge in the brainwashing of children but passed their lifestyle on to their children by example. They started street preaching and became very popular and resonated with working men particularly in the heavy industries such as the mines, potteries, steel, textile workers etc. Those working in these new industries began to become more affulent and assertive. Then in 1838 the Chartist Movement started by working men who demanded enfranchisement.

The industrial age led to much exploitation of workers from children and women working in the mines to them also being expoloited in the textile mills. However there were many other industrial employers who at the same time built model villages for their workers. The Jacksons in Ironbridge to the Roundtrees and Cadbury’s.

In 1838 the People’s Charter called for six reforms to make the political system more democratic:

• A vote for every man aged twenty-one years and above, of sound mind, and not undergoing punishment for a crime.
• The secret ballot to protect the elector in the exercise of his vote.
• No property qualification for Members of Parliament (MPs), to allow the constituencies to return the man of their choice.
• Payment of Members, enabling tradesmen, working men, or other persons of modest means to leave or interrupt their livelihood to attend to the interests of the nation.
• Equal constituencies, securing the same amount of representation for the same number of electors, instead of allowing less populous constituencies (rotten boroughs) to have as much or more weight than larger ones.
• Annual parliamentary elections, thus presenting the most effectual check to bribery and intimidation, since no purse could buy a constituency under a system of universal manhood suffrage in every twelve months.

It was the Primitive Methodists, who had acquired the skills of public speaking by their street preaching, who were able to give voice to the Chartist men assembling outside of the factories. From this cooperation the Labour Party was formed by Kier Hardy, a Scottish miner turned journalist, in 1892 and the Trade Unions joined in. There were several examples of workers striking to demand better wages and conditions in the early 1800s but they were very local and uncoordinated. The Trade Unions were formally made legal in 1834 but were only ad hoc until much later and were generally formed from the much earlier trade guilds and the Labour Party formed from those Trade Unions. They were almost completely from the ‘working class’. My old dad was very conscious that there were no Spiv Lawyers, Academics, middle class Fabians, nieve undergraduates or showbiz dilittantes working down the pit then or since. Today you have to be a right Posh lad to be a leading Socialist

With the exporting of our manufacturing facilities overseas ‘to boost inward investment'(???) by the succesive governments the ‘working men’ of the heavy industries have all but gone. They have more or less been replaced by people who will be in financial difficulties if they do not get their cash in hand at the end of each month and are at the mercy of the state’s conditional benevolence.

Sadly the Labour Party of the workers has long since been hijacked by the Spiv Lawyers, Middle Class Fabians, champaign Socialist millionaires, academics, nieve undergraduates and showbiz dilittanties, all tending to crypto Marxism, offering freebees for votes (but paid for by the taxpayer)  with very few ‘working men’ left. The New ‘Working Class’ are now just voting fodder for the self aclaimed toffs running the Labour Party. Wealthy Marxists are continually quietly trying to take over the Labour Party.

The Union leaderships often hijacked by the Marxist Tendancy.

The latest scandal to come to light is the practice of the clergy advising bogus asylum seekers to claim to convert to Christianity thus to get a free ride with their asylum claim.

Church of England blasted as document reveals Clergy’s tactics to help asylum ‘grifters’

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1862961/Church-of-England-Asylum-document-revealed

It is of interest to speculate why the CoE fought tooth and nail to try to stop women becoming vicars but settled for Trans people without a murmur???

Archbishop Welby now wants to give away £1billion of the churces assetts to Black businesses because of slavery.?????

Britain and the European Caucasians came very late to the slave trade but at no time was it British government policy. Except in 1685  some 856 of Monmouth’s British rebel soldiers were sent the W Indies as slaves by the infamous Judge Jeffries. The West Indies had soil and weather ideal for growing sugar cane and south N America for growing cotton but they were very labour intensive and the Plantation owners could not get reliable labour locally. Freebooters (the people traffickers of their day with allegiance to no particular country) took up the Atlantic slave trade. They discovered a thriving slave trade that had been going on in Africa to the Middle East for hundreds of years where the African Chiefs captured their own people and sold them to the Middle East slave traders. The Freebooters purchaced goods necessary from Europe and often from Britain to exchange for slaves. The Freebooters then bought the slaves off the West African Chiefs who had rounded up their subjects for sale to the Freebooters who then shipped them across the Atlantic to the plantation owners in the North but mostly to the South Americas.  There were British individuals deeply involved in owning slaves but it was the norm for that era and never a National policy- indeed William the Conquerer abolised slavery in England in 1066. It was widely practiced across the world until Britain, almost exclusively of all the countries of the world, abolished the Atlantic slave trade in 1807 by establishing the West African Squadron of the Royal Navy to stop the slave ships. I believe one of my ancestors was a sailor in that Squadron and was killed stopping a Portugese slave ship and saving a boat load of slaves from slavery. The descendants of those freed slaves owe their fredom to my ancestors sacrifice so perhaps they owe me reparations? Gordon of Khartoume was murered by the Muslims as he was trying to stop slavery.

My beliefs??  well we live on a Goldilocks planet. Just the righ distance from the sun, right amount of oxygen, a moon, benine climate etc. One problem is that ice floats. If water behaves as other fluids it would sink and evolution could not have  started. There must have been an intelegence (?) that started everything and realised he had blundered so he must have had to make water change its density on freezing and so float. A classic fiddle to make a system work?

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