2016 – 032 Brexit – the options to leave the EU

Brexit. Should it be by negotiation with the EU under Clause 50 or cut the Gordian Knot by repealing the 1972 Act?

What if we go the Lisbon Clause 50 route?

It will give the EU several years to prevaricate and keep kicking the can down the road. The EU will heavily ‘bribe’ the BBC, Universities, Charities, and our ‘independent’ national establishments to continually pester for Remain. We would also require the agreement of other EU countries who currently rely on UK continually funding them.

The EU never acts directly in a country but by proxy through existing national organisations hollowed out and stuffed with pro EU personnel on excessive salaries and pensions to ensure they remain ‘on side’. e.g. Universities etc are funded by the EU with money from UK but they first cream off much of that money before giving some back a UK University.

We will be negotiating with very devious, slippery people who will lie and deceive without compunction. History shows that UK negotiators are not up to competing with them. In 1972 the EU negotiators made complete monkeys out of our complicit negotiators. We would be negotiating from a position of subservience.

The EU will demand horrendous financial penalties (possibly such as the EU demanding they keep our fishing grounds) and we would still be controlled by EU Directives, such as ECHR and migration, until a settlement is reached – perhaps several years. There is also the problem of UK EU bureaucrat pensions. They are working for the EU so the EU is liable for their pensions. Something the EU will try to wriggle out of.

The Single Market is a trap to allow Brussels to keep control.

The only way this option could be considered is if there were a complete hiatus in all EU legislation directed at the UK during the negotiations. Very unlikely.

What if we go the repeal of the 1972 European Communities Act route?

This can be done within 24 hours if our MPs are so minded and we are out. We will then be free of the EU Human Rights court, recover our fishing and have full control of our borders etc. etc. immediately.

Might be better to repeal first then unpick but unpicking from a position of strength as EU will have no control over us then.

It would still require a lot of renegotiation over several years to untangle the existing mess but we would be negotiating from a position of strength not one of subservience. We would be in the driving seat.

History has shown that whenever our naïve British bureaucrats deal with the EU they are beguiled with lies, sly tricks and dishonesty. The EU have no concerns whatsoever about indulging in dishonest and deceitful negotiation. The bureaucrats appointed to negotiate will be EU friendly and always go for appeasement and compromise and end up looking like monkeys.

Repealing the Act and overnight would create quite enormous difficulties. If the Act was repealed immediately but then implementation withheld for a year for time limited negotiations to take place to quickly resolve these difficulties. No opportunity could be allowed for the EU to prevaricate and string out the negotiations. With immediate effect ECHR, Free movement into UK and all Corpus Juris replaced back to English Common Law. All other EU impositions to be systematically removed over 2 years.

We need people of the calibre of Bob Crow (gord rest his soul) to negotiate for us not EU friendly bureaucrats

It should be noted that the Electoral Commission who made the decision as to which ‘Leave the EU’ groups will be made ‘Lead’ is not ‘independent’. It reports directly to the unelected Cabinet Office that is very pro EU. It awarded it to the leave group closest to the Establishment regardless of all other conditions.

Flexit  A structured withdrawal  see http://www.eureferendum.com/documents/flexcit.pdf

Three problems.

  1. The negotiations will be done by bureaucrats. The bureaucrats chosen to negotiate will be almost certainly be EU friendly and who will usually favour appeasement and accommodation of the EU rather than absolute priority of UK interests.
  2. It will need a majority of MPs in parliament to repeal the 1972 Act
  3. It would have to pass the House of Lords who are stuffed with ex EU personnel with juicy pensions (€100,000) that the EU can revoke if they vote for repealing the 1972 Act. May need the Parliament Act.

 

Which Brexit Group to follow?

There are some 15 (possibly 40) Brexit groups who all have their target voters. The two largest are Leave.eu and VoteLeave.

Leave.eu is co-operating with many others as Grassroots GO to leave the EU completely. VoteLeave has resisted joining but now seems willing to co operate.

VoteLeave is essentially a government front to negotiate with EU after a successful Leave Referendum to negotiate for a reformed EU (impossible to achieve) and then a have second Referendum based on those negotiations. Their aim is to stay in a reformed EU. The EU has made it perfectly clear that any alteration to the EU remit is completely out of the question. Will waste several years of fruitless discussions. Any such ‘successful’ negotiations they achieve can be revoked later by EU as the Lisbon Treaty is an ‘Enabling Act’ and allows the EU to change any unbreakable agreements made to suit themselves without referring back to elected parliaments.

A New General Election in 2016/17

The House of Commons has many MPs who are there by not revealing their true intentions regarding our relationship with the EU. We need a General Election asap where all candidates would be required to formally state their positions on the EU.

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One response to “2016 – 032 Brexit – the options to leave the EU

  1. What a ghastly corrupted institution the EU is. A true Fifth Column.
    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”
    (Marcus Tullius Cicero)

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